"System change is now inevitable. Either because we do something about it, or because we will be hit by climate change. '...

"We need to develop economic models that are fit for purpose. The current economic frameworks, the ones that dominate our governments, these frameworks... the current economic frameworks, the neoclassical, the market frameworks, can deal with small changes. It can tell you the difference, if a sock company puts up the price of socks, what the demand for socks will be. It cannot tell you about the sorts of system level changes we are talking about here. We would not use an understanding of laminar flow in fluid dynamics to understand turbulent flow. So why is it we are using marginal economics, small incremental change economics, to understand system level changes?"

Monday, September 12, 2016

Vanishing Blogs

Updating the blogroll (how old-fashioned!)

I would like to call attention to blogs which are not merely inactive but have also vanished.

People who allow their materials to vanish from the internet are not real bloggers, as they don't understand the purpose of the internet. In fact, my paid blogging for KCET has vanished from the internet, and nobody seems interested in taking my calls. I imagine I have raw text for this somewhere. I'm in the porcess of reorganizing all my old files from my old computers. We'll see if I can recover that material.

Collide-A-Scape's early stuff is gone; this rankles me especially as I participated actively there.

And of course, Facebook keeps everything you've ever written for them, but doesn't really let you find it.

Others from the Hall of Shame:

atmo.sphere
Climate Post
Climate Safety
Salsa Verde

If you comment extensively on a site you don't control or contribute to an aggregator, particularly one run by an institution or a big media outlet, make backups.

The following blogs are off the roll. When I last checked, these were inactive but still live on the internet:


Also, I would like to apologize for having linked to Curry's "Climate Etc." which is emphatically part of the problem.

10 comments:

bluegrue said...

With regard to KCET, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.kcet.org/>you might have luck at archive.org</a>

citizenschallenge said...

What about What's Up With That Watts? It's still alive and plugging along.
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com

The blog that's not shy about going toe to toe with contrarians
and that provides the link to further sources of information.

; - )

citizenschallenge said...

What about What's Up With That Watts? It's still alive and plugging along.
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com

The blog that's not shy about going toe to toe with contrarians
and that provides the link to further sources of information.

; - )

citizenschallenge said...

Also just today a new Climate Science discussion forum was brought online by Sou.
Bet you'll like it.

https://chat.hotwhopper.com/discussions

Sou
5:47AM
We've launched! A big thank you to everyone who helped in the early stages. A warm welcome to everyone who visits.
I hope you stay a while and make this the friendliest place on the Internet to talk climate. Aiming high : )

Don't be shy about asking questions or starting a discussion. There are some links in the sidebar to get you started.

The genesis of this is that i've been thinking for some time (as I wrote on the blog and Facebook) that there are oodles of weather discussion boards, and lots of climate blogs, and some people like Facebook and Twitter. However there aren't too many options for people who aren't bloggers but who occasionally want to write something about climate change at the time they think of it, and chat about it with other people.

HotWhopper Chat was conceived as a place where people with a common interest in climate change can develop a real sense of community - a climate community, that they can own. A place where everyone can feel welcome, from scientist to complete climate newbie.

Enjoy the forum.

citizenschallenge said...

Also just today a new Climate Science discussion forum was brought online by Sou.
Bet you'll like it.

https://chat.hotwhopper.com/discussions

Sou
5:47AM
We've launched! A big thank you to everyone who helped in the early stages. A warm welcome to everyone who visits.
I hope you stay a while and make this the friendliest place on the Internet to talk climate. Aiming high : )

Don't be shy about asking questions or starting a discussion. There are some links in the sidebar to get you started.

The genesis of this is that i've been thinking for some time (as I wrote on the blog and Facebook) that there are oodles of weather discussion boards, and lots of climate blogs, and some people like Facebook and Twitter. However there aren't too many options for people who aren't bloggers but who occasionally want to write something about climate change at the time they think of it, and chat about it with other people.

HotWhopper Chat was conceived as a place where people with a common interest in climate change can develop a real sense of community - a climate community, that they can own. A place where everyone can feel welcome, from scientist to complete climate newbie.

Enjoy the forum.

Kevin O'Neill said...

One of my biggest regrets is having lost all of the BBS and internet service material from the pre-WWW days; especially posts and discussions in GEnie's SFRT 'Dueling Modems' topic from the late 80s to early 90s. Some archives exist,but they're far from complete.

I'd love to go back and look again at the run-up to the 1st gulf war and the ensuing coverage as it unfolded in Dueling Modems. It was the first time I really understood Goering's statement: "Why, of course the people don't want war...But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to do the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."

I had never seen a group of people whom I considered to be very intelligent (mostly SF&F authors) practically genuflect at appeals to authority often in direct contradiction to visual evidence.


Tom said...

Keith Kloor has migrated the archives of CaS to keithkloor.com. I visit the old discussions periodically.

Susan Anderson said...

Way after the fair (speaking of inactive blogs) but Mark Roberts of Throbgoblins came for a visit in Boston and was limping badly. It emerged that he had a cluster of troubles with a handicapped child and lost job. He has not responded for some years. Sadly, he tried to form a website, which didn't work out (had a DDOS attack as well) and then CatsOnTheInternet. I hope he's OK, but the most recent I can find is 2013.
https://manchesterclimatemonthly.net/2013/07/22/help-delilah-the-cat-explain-climate-change-to-manchester/
It's a site that encourages activism, and what parts of it I looked at seemed to tell the same old story about a system that enables the powerful to shut up those trying to get the news out.

MT, hope your Canadian adventures are drawing to a close. We'd love to hear from you some more.

Susan Anderson said...

I became friendly with Marc Roberts of Throbgoblins when he visited my studio a few years back. It's not a good story. You can find his individual cartoons here and there, and somebody told me he still posts a monthly with somebody else. He never figured out how to monetize his undoubted talent; tried a website and had a DDOS attack from which he never really recovered. He lost his job, had a handicapped child, and was lame himself, so I suspect he's a victim of the new UK "Stupid White Men" (Michael Moore) policies of Theresa May and her predecessors and Labour Lite; she'd rather belly up to Trump than take care of her country.

Marion Diabolito said...

I guest-posted on Greenfyre a couple of times, it was always written sporadically. there were two people stewart argo? and mike and then only mike I think.